tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6085311167627297994.post3412559917719659298..comments2024-03-25T17:55:06.688-06:00Comments on Thankful Me: I Believe (A New Series of Posts): Traditional MarriageKristihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14136276061114462192noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6085311167627297994.post-40383103850026588972015-07-13T10:57:39.745-06:002015-07-13T10:57:39.745-06:00Wow, eloquent post and great comments, Kristi. I w...Wow, eloquent post and great comments, Kristi. I was pleased with the ruling but admit to looking at the issue from more of an equal rights thing here on Earth. I believe that every partnership should enjoy the legal and moral benefits from being recognized as married - health insurance, family in medical crisis, wills, etc. I also believe that God is love and have a hard time thinking that He wouldn't accept all of his children. With that said, I do appreciate your point of view and have another friend who feels the same way - she and I talked quite a bit about how she believes that God and Jesus hate sin and that homosexuality is a sin. Anyway, I appreciate your point of view and even more that you were able to write about it so eloquently and peacefully.Kristi Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08340629559188847788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6085311167627297994.post-16153258723323853392015-07-07T09:07:27.883-06:002015-07-07T09:07:27.883-06:00I appreciate your kind comment. Yes, the judgment...I appreciate your kind comment. Yes, the judgment and hate has to stop. It has been ugly on both sides. I'd like to believe that most people are reasonable and capable of respectful disagreement. I'm thankful for friends, like you, who help prove that assumption!Kristihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14136276061114462192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6085311167627297994.post-43297923657221558912015-07-03T17:24:28.141-06:002015-07-03T17:24:28.141-06:00Sarah and Bianca above said it better than I possi...Sarah and Bianca above said it better than I possibly can. I do disagree with your point of view but I certainly respect you for your beliefs and you have expressed it eloquently. The thing I think we do agree on is that we must all stop judging and we must certainly stop hating! The FB thing has been a bit mean spirited by some. I look forward to the discussion on families!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11765055414561998856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6085311167627297994.post-17944501271626061942015-07-02T10:20:44.172-06:002015-07-02T10:20:44.172-06:00Thank you. You are certainly right that the imple...Thank you. You are certainly right that the implementation of laws and programs is not cut and dried. There are many factors and issues to consider on both sides.Kristihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14136276061114462192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6085311167627297994.post-2983320563243799002015-07-01T16:18:17.080-06:002015-07-01T16:18:17.080-06:00"To a large extent, religious views provide a..."To a large extent, religious views provide a dividing line for the issue of marriage. Those who think, as I do, that marriage between man and woman is ordained of God, are not prone to change their minds because a panel of mortals has decided otherwise." On this point, as Christine already said...Yup. Absolutely. And Uchtdorf is right - the hate, the judgment, the oversimplified lumping of people into groups of "yays" or "nays" just needs to stop. <br />The biggest problem I see as I sit back in my desk chair and observe all of this from a slight distance is that people want their view upheld as the only one - regardless of what that view is. The world doesn't work that way. I also see so much about how if someone believes A and it dissents with B, then the believer of A is somehow oppressing or limiting the rights of B. Again, no. It doesn't work that way. It's just not that cut and dried. I guess what I just don't understand is why it's interpreted that way. Just because someone thinks differently than I do, it doesn't change my view, it doesn't change who I am, and it doesn't automatically mean they are limiting me in any way. I guess that's why the "take that" mentality I see out there right now is so bothersome. It's like a group of people are saying "ha, you ___ person who opposes gay marriage! The law now says it's OK so you're wrong, sit down and shut up." That's not OK. And no, just because it's a legal doesn't mean it makes what I believe wrong. Other issues have been cited in that regard already - contraception, abortion, death penality...<br />I think so much of this stems from fear. So much of so many issues stems from fear. I'm very interested in where you'll go with this series and am looking forward to reading more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6085311167627297994.post-41506438695877304102015-06-30T08:34:22.770-06:002015-06-30T08:34:22.770-06:00Thank you. I'm glad to hear that my message i...Thank you. I'm glad to hear that my message is coming across in the spirit in which it was intended. Kristihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14136276061114462192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6085311167627297994.post-91662538448069015092015-06-30T08:23:44.700-06:002015-06-30T08:23:44.700-06:00OF COURSE I still consider you a friend! :-) I j...OF COURSE I still consider you a friend! :-) I just felt the need to stand up and be clear about what I believe in--I had already planned to start this series of posts even before the ruling came down. My purpose is one of explanation, not confrontation. <br />Thank you for being a great friend!Kristihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14136276061114462192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6085311167627297994.post-7015419614521883092015-06-30T05:43:34.994-06:002015-06-30T05:43:34.994-06:00I admire both you and Christine (even more than I ...I admire both you and Christine (even more than I did before) for standing up and confirming your beliefs at a time when it may be unpopular to do so and it feels like a bigger risk than usual. No matter our beliefs one of the truer acts of God is the acceptance of each other despite differences. You both have always lived that through example and in making these clear statements of where your beliefs come from and how you choose to live them, that makes an even more clear statement of who you are. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11630958840521397718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6085311167627297994.post-11349411089664916422015-06-30T05:04:44.245-06:002015-06-30T05:04:44.245-06:00I thought long and hard before replying to your po...I thought long and hard before replying to your post this time...<br />It's very well written and I do understand your point of view. I disagree though. <br />I'm not starting a discussion about our different views, because I hope we can still be friends eventhough we think very differently. Hey, I'm from the Netherlands!!! The first country making it legal for same sex marriage in 2001!!! We're a bit of rebeleous lot, I think. And I'm Very Dutch....<br />I was actually very suprised by how well it was received in the US. To me most Americans are still very conservative in their believes. Still living very "God fearing" and living "by the Book". Guess I was wrong.<br />I do love the bumbersticker-wisdom though! It's exactly my view on things; "Live and let live. Don't be so quick to judge what you don't know. Just live your best life and let others do what they believe is good." Not that I believe you are a 'judging type of person' at all though, others can be and often are. <br />So, standing on opposite sides; do you still consider me a friend?? I hope so. Biancahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13124458364369038191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6085311167627297994.post-21851868150328408042015-06-29T23:03:54.990-06:002015-06-29T23:03:54.990-06:00Thanks, Mom. :-)Thanks, Mom. :-)Kristihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14136276061114462192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6085311167627297994.post-9479292324323770992015-06-29T23:03:36.334-06:002015-06-29T23:03:36.334-06:00I'm glad, too. :-)I'm glad, too. :-)Kristihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14136276061114462192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6085311167627297994.post-11325279513542064842015-06-29T22:10:01.128-06:002015-06-29T22:10:01.128-06:00You did such a fantastic job writing about this to...You did such a fantastic job writing about this topic. Hugs. You did it!Pat Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00760779673175109204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6085311167627297994.post-83108819763460214292015-06-29T19:09:14.372-06:002015-06-29T19:09:14.372-06:00This was beautifully stated, Kristi. It is such a ...This was beautifully stated, Kristi. It is such a divisive topic, and you covered it very well from your point of view. I'm glad we're friends.<br />Dyanne @ I Want Backsieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04946323852124525597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6085311167627297994.post-87281447521721139322015-06-29T11:53:02.133-06:002015-06-29T11:53:02.133-06:00He does have a way with words, doesn't he?He does have a way with words, doesn't he?Kristihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14136276061114462192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6085311167627297994.post-53982919565424274702015-06-29T11:34:21.414-06:002015-06-29T11:34:21.414-06:00"To a large extent, religious views provide a..."To a large extent, religious views provide a dividing line for the issue of marriage. Those who think, as I do, that marriage between man and woman is ordained of God, are not prone to change their minds because a panel of mortals has decided otherwise." Yup.<br /><br />Mr. Uchtdorf's words are spot on. Christinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17209807996463889703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6085311167627297994.post-87811677025211854872015-06-29T11:03:15.256-06:002015-06-29T11:03:15.256-06:00Thank you, my friend, for being kind in your reply...Thank you, my friend, for being kind in your reply, and calm in your explanation of your point of view. I appreciate the time you took to comment. And yes, it is always nice to find a point of agreement. :-)Kristihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14136276061114462192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6085311167627297994.post-42844637853199188782015-06-29T10:28:39.647-06:002015-06-29T10:28:39.647-06:00The letter within this post sums up my feelings so...The letter within this post sums up my feelings so much more eloquently than I can express.<br />http://momastery.com/blog/2013/03/26/a-mountain-im-willing-to-die-on-4/Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03624509801901211108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6085311167627297994.post-58297464718294614852015-06-29T10:27:43.898-06:002015-06-29T10:27:43.898-06:00I am so glad you felt comfortable expressing this....I am so glad you felt comfortable expressing this. I read it carefully.<br />I don't think it will surprise you to know that I rejoiced in the ruling, though I did not express that on Facebook. Nearly everyone I know and am related to supports the SCOTUS decision so I do not hear a carefully considered opinion to the contrary very often, if at all. <br />I believe in an "evolving nature of human sexuality," a phrase I read once that seemed to be a good description. I believe that the Bible was recorded long ago and many of the rules and examples are no longer applicable in today's society. I believe the only way to show justice and love kindness (and even walk humbly) is to permit homosexual people the same rights as heterosexual people have. <br />I also believe you should have your beliefs as I should have mine so long as neither of limits the rights of others.<br />I absolutely loved what you wrote about us all sinning differently and refraining from judgement. I am always glad to find a point of agreement. <br />You are a lovely person, Kristi. Keep writing.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03624509801901211108noreply@blogger.com